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    Quote Originally Posted by rpiereck View Post
    I too like what Fiat has been doing with Chrysler and their products. For a few years the only American brands I cared for were Ford and Jeep. I tolerated Dodge and Chrysler, and always hated Chevy. With the current line up I am seriously starting to like Chrysler/Dodge more, they are taking the right steps. I am not sure about making a bunch of new different brands (Ram, SRT...) as that seems like General Morons move, but I hope they succeed.
    I can see RAM being separate, the way GMC is. As long as RAM doesn't get diluted with crossovers and stuff, the way GMC has the Acadia

    SRT ..... jury out on that one. I'd rather they slap SRT badge on pure-performance variants the way the M, AMG and RS (Audi) monikers are applied. Chevy made the mistake a few years ago when "SS" started proliferating on model variants that didn't deserve it.


    Quote Originally Posted by rpiereck View Post
    And yeah, what's up with sedan versions of hatchbacks? They sure don't look good!
    Happened with the 9000 CD/CDE ..... never a great angle to view from


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    As an implant from South America, I always wondered what is the point of GMC...? They are the same as Chevrolet, some trim and engine differences but they're Chevys in the end...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpiereck View Post
    As an implant from South America, I always wondered what is the point of GMC...? They are the same as Chevrolet, some trim and engine differences but they're Chevys in the end...
    GMC historically produced many commercial products too. Nowadays not so much:

    GMC (automobile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "Today, for the most part, GMC offers the same trucks available under the Chevrolet brand. A GMC Sprint / Caballero, for example, was a rebadged Chevrolet El Camino, the Sierra is a rebadged Chevrolet Silverado, etc. Alongside sister brand Cadillac, all three share the Suburban/Tahoe SUV platform due to Cadillac's upscale Escalade and Escalade ESV brands, with GMC's Yukon Denali being closer to the Escalades.

    In the United States GMC trucks are currently sold usually with Buick automobiles, typically at lower volumes than the equivalent Chevrolet trucks. GMC's trucks, vans, and SUVs offer more options and standard features than Chevrolet, while Chevrolet is often offered as an entry-level car.[citation needed] In Canada, GMC is sold by Buick-GMC dealerships, usually at volumes equivalent or greater than the comparable Chevrolet trucks.

    In 2007 GMC introduced the Acadia, a crossover SUV, which was the division's first unibody vehicle whose predecessor, the GMT-360 based Envoy, was discontinued with the closure of GM's Moraine, Ohio plant on December 23, 2008. In 2009 GMC introduced the Terrain, a mid-size crossover SUV based on GM's Theta platform which slots below the Acadia as GMC's smallest crossover, replacing the Pontiac Torrent and sharing no sheetmetal with the Chevrolet Equinox.
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    I sat in the new Dart a few weeks ago. Interior quality was pretty good but the big problem for me was not enough headroom. My head was touching the roof with the seat in the lowest position. I have about an inch to spare in my 9-5 so the Dart is not a good fit if you're 6'2" or taller.


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