Originally Posted by grendal

Or does the Saab amp split to all 9 speakers. Thanks!!

Yes, that's correct. The factory radio uses the same 4 connections to the amp. 2 for front and 2 for back. The factory amp takes care of the rest.

Thanks for the quick reply, I'm diving in and will post pictures once i'm completed.

Greetings, and thanks to all who posted their experience. I am wondering for all who added the aftermarket double-din units, dod you lose any functionality of any of the SAAb 9-5 electrical/electronic components. Including things like seatbelt reminder chimes, remote locking, day time running lights, SID functions etc. I am considering having the pioneer AVH-P1400DVD unit installed by a pro shop. He is telling me that none of my original functions will be affected. I just wanted to know before I do this.

Thanks
JW

I've lost the shift down function on the paddles.

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Originally Posted by ile2010

I've lost the shift down function on the paddles.

Yikes! that's no good. Anyone else have this problem??

OK, I'm having a big problem.

I removed the F700BT from the 05 and brought it and the 04 to a professional installer.

The issue I am having is that the radio works just fine, navigation works fine, bluetooth / phone work fine ... but as soon as I switch to iPod, SD, aux-in, or CD, I lose all audio, including system sounds.

In looking at Frank's original installation, I notice that he uses the RCA outputs ... this guy used what I believe are the direct speaker outputs.
The audio output of the radio is much louder than normal ... and I've noticed that when I plug the iPod in, the volume seems to jump to 30 or so ...
I used to listen to the volume up to 40 ... right now, the loudest I can stand is 20.

On the plus side, I managed to get the steering wheel controls connected thanks to Frank's instructions!

Any thoughts?
I spent 13 hours driving to SOC12 yesterday listening to FM only ... and hitting BSM every 5 minutes hoping to find something I could stand.
Driving home under the same conditions ... not my idea of an ideal driving trip!
Could the wiring be the difference???

Did they use the exact same harnesses I fabricated? It should just be a matter of plug and play between different 9-5's. Including using the RCA pre-amp outpits from the head unit to go to the amp input in the car.

If they didn't, it sounds like they may have used the signal cable for a power antenna coming from the head unit for the amp-on wire in the car. So when you turn off the radio or switch to another audio source, the head unit uses that antenna power cable to incorrectly turn off the amp, resulting in no sound.

Originally Posted by Frank Wulfers

Did they use the exact same harnesses I fabricated? It should just be a matter of plug and play between different 9-5's. Including using the RCA pre-amp outpits from the head unit to go to the amp input in the car.

If they didn't, it sounds like they may have used the signal cable for a power antenna coming from the head unit for the amp-on wire in the car. So when you turn off the radio or switch to another audio source, the head unit uses that antenna power cable to incorrectly turn off the amp, resulting in no sound.

Thanks very much Frank! I will check that out tomorrow!

Ok .. couldn't wait until the morning.

Had to go investigate right away. You were right about the antenna wire ... it was wired in. I disconnected it and ALL sound died!
And no, I was too tired when I removed it from the 05, I didn't realize that part disconnected.

So, next step tomorrow ... get some wire and hook the connections to the headlight switch.

I'll post more details as I move forward.

Thanks very much Frank!!!

And make sure you connect the power amp cable from the head unit to the harness. Not much happens when the amp in the car doesn't get turned on. Wire number 9 in this post. Double-din audio head unit install (Pioneer AVIC-F700BT)

Good luck and have fun at the convention.

Frank ... I owe you a beer buddy!

That was exactly it! They had the power antenna lead running to the amp power lead. They had the correct lead for the amp running to something not even shown in your diagram! I removed it and plugged it directly in ... everything worked great after that.

What I may do is take the car back to them and have them re-wire the ouput/input to RCA to RCA instead of speaker out to RCA. Have them do the more "difficult" work!

I'll deal with the dimming later on. Right now I am happy not to have to drive home from SOC12 with only the radio!

Thanks again for the detailed instructions Frank ... I wish I had trusted myself more and had more time between getting the car and heading to SOC12.

I have now pretty much re-wired the entire thing, including the wiring off the headlight switch.

The only thing I have to sort out is the steering wheel controls ... as soon as I moved the power switch over to the HL wire, the volume started climbing and I couldn't do anything but disconnect it. Will have to chase that down later on ... I've gotten used to having the steering wheel controls and they are very nice to have.

Also, will be going into Future Shop to see about getting some/all of my money back since the installer really didn't do me any favours with his work!

I've just upgraded my ICE to a SONY XAV622 and used this as a guide.

however.... I also do not use 'scotch locks' as they are prone to working loose. soldering and sleeving with heat-shrink is the best way and 2nd is crimp connectors.

I used SONY amps too and therefore unplugged the SAAB HK amp. this meant that I neglected to connect the SAAB HK amp remote and then found that the aerial amp didn't work! And I used the PAC SWI-PS. this was so easy and didn't need any resistors nor loop cutting! Fantastic.

Thanks to all those who made this thread and to the Angry Kitchen Appliances web site.

Took me forever to get all the parts and pieces, and I ended up going with an older model, but very very happy. Works with iphone too! Thanks to everyone for the great thread!

Hi,
I recently purchased a pioneer-8400 to put in my 2004 Saab 9-5 (9-speaker). I bought the wiring harness (Metra 70-1786) and the antenna adapter (Metra 40-VW12). I splice all of the needed wire to the system (ground, constant, ignition, and amp control). Then, I wanted to check and make sure that the radio worked before doing the steering controls. I popped the stock system out and plugged the wiring harness in and the antenna. I turned the key and the radio turned on and was fully functional. I selected the tuner function and it was displaying the correct information about the station and song, but there was no audio. I tried turning the system all the way up and nothing. So i put a disc in thinking that the tuner function may be screwy and still no sound . Was there something i did wrong (or didn't do).

Thanks
(Great post Frank very informative)

My guess is that you didn't connect the head unit up correctly to turn on the power amp. There is one pin in the connector (see Frank's early posts in this thread, I think it's pin 7 on the Metra connector) that is used for the head unit to turn on the power amp. Make sure that you have that connected from your head unit. The wire may be labeled antenna or remote or something like that.

Originally Posted by unclemiltie

My guess is that you didn't connect the head unit up correctly to turn on the power amp. There is one pin in the connector (see Frank's early posts in this thread, I think it's pin 7 on the Metra connector) that is used for the head unit to turn on the power amp. Make sure that you have that connected from your head unit. The wire may be labeled antenna or remote or something like that.

I made sure that it was connected. I believe the wire on the unit was labeled "system remote control"(it said in the book it was to turn on an amp). I'm at work right now or else I would look for what pioneer named the wire.

Great thread Wulf! So glad I found it. Im going to attempt to install a Pioneer AVIC-X940BT into my 1999 9-5.

Quick question: besides I believe the Pioneer Ipod cable(i need the CD-IU51V) are all the parts Im going to need the same as listed on Page 1? Is there a direct link for the GLI's where I can purchase so that Im sure to get the right brand, type etc.?

Once I get this all done I plan on posting pics and a brief summary of the process. In the mean time....I might be back with a few more questions!

Originally Posted by Clyde

Great thread Wulf! So glad I found it. Im going to attempt to install a Pioneer AVIC-X940BT into my 1999 9-5.

Quick question: besides I believe the Pioneer Ipod cable(i need the CD-IU51V) are all the parts Im going to need the same as listed on Page 1? Is there a direct link for the GLI's where I can purchase so that Im sure to get the right brand, type etc.?

Once I get this all done I plan on posting pics and a brief summary of the process. In the mean time....I might be back with a few more questions!

I did the X930BT last year. You need everything on Frank's list and as you mention the IPOD adapter is different. The main cable is a USB type A and a Mini jack that the iPod adapter plugs into. (so you can buy that at a later date if you want to just run the USB out)

The other thing you will need is the ground loop isolators which help you adapt from the single-ended, common ground signaling of the Pioneer to the differential input for the HK amp.

Here's the link to the section of this thread with my install, harness, etc.

Double-din audio head unit install (Pioneer AVIC-F700BT)

Good luck. It's not too hard, just requires a bit of patience.

Originally Posted by unclemiltie

I did the X930BT last year. You need everything on Frank's list and as you mention the IPOD adapter is different. The main cable is a USB type A and a Mini jack that the iPod adapter plugs into. (so you can buy that at a later date if you want to just run the USB out)

The other thing you will need is the ground loop isolators which help you adapt from the single-ended, common ground signaling of the Pioneer to the differential input for the HK amp.

Here's the link to the section of this thread with my install, harness, etc.

Double-din audio head unit install (Pioneer AVIC-F700BT)

Good luck. It's not too hard, just requires a bit of patience.

Thanks for the quick response and for the help! Would this suffice for the GLI? Scosche Ground Loop Isolator Es034 - Car Audio and Video Accessories - Product Reviews and Prices - Shopping.com