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24 June 2011 #11
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24 June 2011 #12
Frank Administrator
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- previous: 2006 9-3, 2001-06 9-5, 2011 9-4X
So what does make a Saab a Saab when it comes to styling? Some say the clamshell hood is a Saab design cue but I think it looks terrible on the current 9-3. However, it looks great on the previous 9-5 and C900.
The 9-4X and 9-5 have similar styling cues in the back as well. The good thing is it doesn't look like an SRX at all.
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25 June 2011 #13
Neil Richardson Fly By Night
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Original, innovative designs are what make Saabs Saabs. This looks like another Chevy equinox or trailblazer or whatever they're branding them as this year. The new 9-5 at least kind of looks like a Saab in profile and the rear end. It's the curves and lines that really bring out the Saabness of a new car, like the characteristic hatch/notch shape of the c900 or the aerodynamic sweep of the 96. No other car even comes close to the shape of a Saab, and that's what made them stand apart so wonderfully.
Saabishness is a wholly unique shape and I feel that after the OG 9-3 stopped being made in 2003 I feel it has been lost.
To beat a very dead horse: bring back the hatch.
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25 June 2011 #14
Sam Carlson Tutorial Bot
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It's not just one set of styling cues that makes a SAAB a SAAB. It's fluid, changing, and unique. The Hatter puts it best:
Originally Posted by Saabhat93
I'd go further and say that it's not just styling, but also the technology that lies beneath. SAAB used sodium-cooled valves and multi-valve engines before they were widely accepted. It's too bad they didn't also pioneer direct injection turbocharged gasoline engines--Ford is now making them, but SAAB had the technology (Trionic engine management and a unique blend of knowledge and experience) in the mid-'90s. Another SAAB hallmark is the innovatively-designed chassis--after all, who else makes a FWD car with dual control arms? They had lots of factory extras and a plethora of weird wheel designs (thankfully this has not been phased out). It would be nice to see a SAAB chassis on the rally scene again. Even if it's not a factory team. But I think they'd need a smaller, nimbler car to accomplish this.
Also, to me, SAABs have a certain sort of reliability that other cars don't. For example, most other cars have their brake and fuel lines routed below the floor, exposed to the elements. SAAB put them under the carpet. Brilliant! I didn't know how easy I had it until I had to crawl under a Chevrolet to fix a fuel leak. Same thing for Toyotas. If you want a SAAB-specific styling cue, take a look under a classic SAAB. You'll notice it's pretty flat, with no place for rust to start. Look for spot-welded seams and marvel at how few there are exposed to the elements.
Finally, there are little "oh that's cool!" flourishes that I think new SAABs could use. How about a metal shift gate? Or some buttons and knobs that feel robust and heavy? Or anything made of aluminum extrusion? Door handles, maybe? Anything to contribute to the "well-built" feel.
Put this all together and you get a car that is moderately reliable and good-enough looking to the right people. How subjective. More importantly, you get a car that ages well. Timeless exceptionalism--to me, that's what makes a SAAB a SAAB.Ask me a question about your c900! I promise I either can answer it or know someone who can
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17 July 2011 #15
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- 06' 9-5 Sportcombi, 06' Sport Sedan
so I have a question about the 9-4. if this being produce in the US by GM?
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17 July 2011 #16
Yes. And no.
It's being built in Mexico alongside it's GM platform mate, the Cadillac SRX. The 9-4 benefits from some extra time tweaking this and that.
That said, I have yet to see a 9-4x in the wild. I know Just Saab is waiting on delivery as I type this. They expected them yesterday, looks like it'll be Monday.
AJ, Just Saabs sales manager, brought up an interesting point. We can track a $20 package all the way to our front door using UPS or Fed Ex, but try to track a truckload of $35,000 cars...........
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23 July 2011 #17
Matt Saab-Blooded
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The rate at which people buy Crossovers compared to very large sedans (In the USA at least), I would not be surprised if the 9-4x sales easily surpass those of the 9-5 and we start seeing them relatively regularly. I have still only seen 2 9-5's in the wild.
The 9-4x actually starts at a very reasonable price too, Starting at $33,380.. And thats before incentives. By comparison the 9-5 starts at $38,500
So if you compare what you exactly get for the money against the 9-5. the 9-4x has, to the onlooker, more power, more interior room, its an SUV so u get the ride height bonus, and you wont look silly towing something with it... All for a significantly cheaper price.
I think its going to sell very well. (IMO, the interior and exterior are much better as well.)