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10 July 2011 #1
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Identifying a Sludge Problem
I have always changed the Mobil 1 & filter every 5 to 6,000 miles, the last time the synthetic Mobil 1 was changes was about 1,000 miles ago. When checking the oil today, the oil is very dirty looking and smells slightly burnt. Any suggestions?
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10 July 2011 #2
Jared The young one
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The only way to check for sludge is to remove the valve cover and look at the engine, or remove the oil and check there.
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10 July 2011 #3
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There is also the "coat hanger test" which can give you a lot of false-negatives. When you drain the oil, reach in there with a old coat hanger and gently scrap around. Most likely it will come out clean, but sometimes (normally if you have major sludge) you'll come out with a little gunk on the end. Not very reliable, people have used it before.
I'd go with J-Rod though, drop the pan. Depending on you mileage, you most likely have some stuff on your pick-up screen, so it wouldn't hurt to drop it if you know what you are doing.Free SaabWorld Stickers
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11 July 2011 #4
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Sludge & gunk
Thanks tons Guys, I will give the coat hanger a shot. A few months down the road I will plan on dropping the pan or removing the valve cover and having a look.
So the info that I was given by the dealer when I bought the machine to use synthetic oil to avoid a sludge buildup was not neccessarily sufficient, it doesn't prevent it, just helps.
By the way when you pull the valve cover does one need a new gasket? I had many valve covers off on various cars, some you do some you don't.
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11 July 2011 #5
Mike Moderator
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Ooops, I meant oil pan should be dropped. Sorry about that. And when you do the coat hanger test, you stick it in the oil drain plug.
Here is a great write up on how to drop the oil pan.
http://saabworld.net/f29/saab-9-5-oil-pan-sump-drop-check-sludge-7/
And your car is a 2003, most sludging issues were taken care of, but it's been known to happen still. If the car has been well taken care of (regular synth. oil changes and stuff), you should be in the clear.Free SaabWorld Stickers
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11 July 2011 #6
Jared The young one
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