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    Ok here is where i stand -
    i still love this car but i am uneasy. several people have steered me away from this car. but i am getting mixed signals.
    one person said no just because of the rust issues that are possible in NY and the other said no because of the engine and parts availability (she is a V4 owner in Finland).

    I have been looking at V4s also - there are two i really like which raises new problems.
    the one car is mint....but he is reluctant to ship it and deal with money through a bank. understandable but disappointing.

    the other is....rough to say the least.
    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3&l=51805e7972

    last picture is of the V4. interior is just horrible and the rust really scares me. not to mention that it whines in 2nd gear (not sure how bad).

    I really don't know what to do....

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    Hmmm, it looks pretty rusty, but it doesn't look like much more than bad surface rust. It is just one picture, but from it you don't see anywhere where it has rusted through.

    Personally, if you are unfamiliar with the car, the V4 is a much better starter place for a daily driver. Parts are far more common (the engine had several applications outside of Saab) and are pretty easy to keep running. Not to mention, a decent V4 is typically cheaper than a similar condition stroker.

    Also, it will be a bit of trouble keeping the thing from rusting. They rust so bad because of their monocoque design that traps water, and rust proofing back then isn't what it is today.

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    just added two more pictures of the rust if you wouldnt mind looking.

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    Only seeing the same one. The blue one, right?

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    okay now they are there. sorry about that.

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    I see one rust hole (almost under the clutch pedal, but towards the wheel well), and it looks a bit weak where they fuel line passes through the firewall, and where the far rocker panel joins the floor looks a bit weak. It is definitely drive-able like that. If you didn't want to fix the problem, it's drive-able in normal conditions (excluding salt/snow) for a years (maybe 5?) before you start getting into big trouble. I would strongly advise against that. Even with the current rust, you'll have a bit of work to get rid of it; mostly metal work to get the pans to fit.

    Honestly, I don't think it's too bad. I would trade my rust troubles for that any day.

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    Thanks for the advice. i want to see what happens with the other V4 first. that is just a few mechanical things (leaky brake cylinders and such).

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    Rebuild kits of cylinders can be found. Thesaabsite used to have some (they are now out), Ashcraft has some ($49). I'm sure there are other places too.

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    One thing to consider. When I expressed a desire to return to basics with an early 9 my mech I was crazy and hate it. Way too slow.

    You have to consider where you will be driving it since there is nothing in your profile. Here in New Jersey I even had trouble with a 64 Peugeot 404 with a 4 on the tree.

    Now euromobile900 can vouch for me that Rt.23 from Port Jervis over the top of High Point is pretty steep. At least once a week I would start that drive from Sussex or Port Jervis and no matter how hard I shifted and kept up the revs, one little mistake and I had to back down a mile or two and start over again.

    Each run was like the "Myth of Sisyphus" trying to roll my Peugeot to the top on the mountain (a climb from 300' to 1,000 feet elevation.) Shifting like the devil possessed me each moment and loved every minute of it. But I would have pledged my soul for just 10 more horsepower.

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    I can deal with slow. i don't have to tackle hills in my area.

    Problem now. i need opinions based on what has been seen so far.
    i know everybody is against the stroker so it is down to the v4...but which one...

    there is the blue one with the rust issue and needs carburetor work - $2300

    1970 SAAB 96 | Cars and Vehicles | Sylmar CA | recycler.com - this one is missing random pieces from the rear end - $3500

    SAAB model 96 1967 V-4 - this one needs work with the brakes. - $2200

    the only one in solid mechanical condition in the middle one.... soooo.....

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