SID Audible Warning Question *******Photos*******

[photousa]

The PO had pulled an SID out of a junkyard as a replacement for the one in my '03, (part #5263264) Not only was I not getting the warning everyone else was talking about, but the steering wheel stereo controls did not function properly. When you pressed the volume up, the volume would go down instead. I replaced the steering wheel controls with a set from a parts car and voila, they worked properly, I did not know at the time that only specific steering controls are meant to work with certain SID's, the are "matched" in a sense. So once Nitrous helped me his tip, (that I probably had the wrong SID in my car), I bought what I thought was the correct version, Part # 12806123, (verified to work with my '03 from Neo Brothers).


Used a plastic computer spudger to dislodge my SID:

Removed the old SID:



Installed the correct SID:



I thought it would be plug n play, but it was not to be, I was getting an error message when I started the car:


"SID UNPROG" The SID needed programming or mated to my car, (probably not using the correct terminology)


got some help from Fred:





We tested the car for the Low Coolant Warning and it seemed to work, so hopefully the other warnings and "service" message will work.


The thing I'm wondering about now, is that I don't know if I have all of my Audio warnings back, so I could use some help from some owners to tell me what some of the audio warnings are, or perhaps there is a link that explains what some of the audio warnings are. For example, if you're driving with your seatbelt connected and you disconnect while driving, do you get an audible warning? If you have a door ajar while driving, should I be getting an audible warning? Oh, I should add, it was not necessary to swap out my steering wheel controls, my original set worked just fine, but weren't compatible with the older replacement SID that the PO had installed. I put the old steering wheel stereo controls back in and it worked just find the "126" SID.

[rpiereck]

I think the best source for the information you are looking for (audible warnings) would be the owner's manual. You can get one here: Saab Owner Manuals - Factory Warranty, features and options, and maintenance explained

[photousa]

I think the best source for the information you are looking for (audible warnings) would be the owner's manual. You can get one here: Saab Owner Manuals - Factory Warranty, features and options, and maintenance explained

Thanks Rpiereck, I've looked through the manual and there really isn't much information about Audible warnings. I need someone out there with an '03 9-5 who can just do a couple of simple tests for me so I can do a comparison....any takers?

[nordwulf]

if you're driving with your seatbelt connected and you disconnect while driving, do you get an audible warning? If you have a door ajar while driving, should I be getting an audible warning?

I tried this and no audible warnings on my 2005 when opening a door or disconnecting the seatbelt while driving.

On a side note, what are the audible warnings on start up for? It's actually pretty annoying and I don't understand what they are for.

[photousa]

I tried this and no audible warnings on my 2005 when opening a door or disconnecting the seatbelt while driving.

On a side note, what are the audible warnings on start up for? It's actually pretty annoying and I don't understand what they are for.

Thanks for checking Frank. I find it a bit odd that there is no audible warning when a seatbelt is unfastened or a door is ajar when moving.
Since yours does not have this feature, It's safe to assume that mine wouldn't. I was comparing to my wife's Audi A3, which does have these
warnings. As far as the audible tones at startup go, I always just assumed it was a seatbelt warning, but I haven't been able find an official
confirmation. Below is a list of Tech II options from another owner:

LIST # 1 Tech 2 Adjustments Menu Item: Most Common Adjustments Panic Alarm Enable/Disable Enables the Panic Alarm Disables the Panic Alarm Trunk Unlock Single Press Unlock Only Single Press Unlock + Open Single Press unlock Double Press Open Single press of the remote or door switch will unlock boot Single press of the remote or door switch will unlock and open boot Single press of the remote or door switch will unlock double press will unlock and open boot. Trunk Lock After Closing Yes/No Yes: Automatically lock Boot on closing No: Boot can be reopened using micro switch button located on the trunk/boot Trunk Lock After Drive Off Yes/No Yes: Trunk/Boot will automatically lock when vehicle increases speed No:. Trunk/Boot will remain closed, however will be in the unlocked condition if No was selected in the previous option. Door & Trunk Unlock at Key Out Yes/No Yes: All Doors & Trunk/Boot will Unlock when the Key is removed from the Ignition Switch If Driver frequently locked all Doors when driving this feature would be beneficial. No: Doors and Boot will remain in the same condition as they were prior to Key removal TSL Locking Logic (Theft Security Locking/Deadlock) TSL at First Press TSL at Second Press Driver Preference. Normal Locking or Dead Locking at first Press of Remote TSL at firs Press: Default Setting. All Doors will lock in Deadlock Mode TSL: at Second Press: All Doors will lock in Deadlock mode at the second press of the Remote. Lock /Unlock Acknowledge None or Indicators Current vehicles fitted without Alarm can only option indicators only. Follow Me Home Tail Light Back Up Light Tail or Reverse lights can be selected when Follow Me Home is activated Tail Light: When selected Tail Lights will be illuminated Back Up Light: When Selected Reverse Light will be activated Tech 2 Body Exterior Lighting & Horn High Beam Follow me home Active Time Follow Me Home Follow me home Active Time can be adjusted between 0- 10 minutes This Feature can be turned on or Off .Yes / No can be selected Low Beam Automatic Low Beam also in Position 0 Yes / No Follow Me Home Active Time Daytime Driving Lights can be activated 0 – 10 Min Can be selected Parking Lights Lead Me To the Car Light Type of Rear Light Park Light On Reminder Function can be turned off or On Yes /No Tail Light or Reverse Lights can be selected when Follow me Home is activated. If Ignition is turned Off and the parking lights are active, Driver will be warned. Turn Indicator Left None Turn Indicator This function is limited to vehicles fitted with Alarm system. On vehicles without alarm options Current software will allow option None or Indicator only Turn Indicator Right Same as Indicator left Back Up Light Type of Rear Light during follow Me Home Function is Active Tail Light can be selected Reverse Light can be selected Trailer Light Show Trailer Light Outage Yes:: REC will detect blown trailer light and display on SID No REC will not detect blown trailer light. Trailer Light Fog Light Rear will be disabled When Trailer is connected Yes/No Horn Lock Unlock Acknowledge Same as Turn Indicator Left Tech 2Body Driver Information Sound Alerts Parking L:ights On Reminder Yes Same as Parking Lights No Tech 2 Body Locking (additional to what is covered in Most Common adjustments Panic Alarm Activation (Vehicles fitted with /Alarm only) Panic Button / Locking Switch Panic Button Central Locking Switch Driver /Passenger None Driver Preference Panic Button on Remote and locking switch inside vehicle will activate alarm: Panic Button will activate Alarm only Locking Switch inside vehicle (driver /passenger will activate alarm only No Panic Alarm function required. Unlock Logic All at first press Driver Door & Fuel Lid at first press Remote unlocking One Press Remote unlocking One Press Driver Preference All Doors will open & Fuel Lid will unlock if the Driver or Passenger Door Switch is activated Only the drivers Door will unlock & Fuel Lid will unlock when door switch is activated All Doors will open & Fuel Lid will unlock if the Remote is pressed Only the drivers Door will unlock & Fuel Lid will unlock when the Remote is pressed Tech 2 Body Front Wipers &Washers Additional Wipes Below this Speed Vehicle Speed Adjustment Used after washing the windscreen. System will activate an additional wipe to remove excess water run off. Therefore Driver can wash screen without turning wiper on to wipe runoff. The Vehicle Speed at which the additional wipe feature cancels can be set. Number of Wipes after wash Number of Wipes after wash is programmable The number of wipes can be set between 0-10 Wiper /Extra Wipe Enable Yes/No Yes: Extra Wipe enabled No: Extra Wipe not enabled Front Washer Number of Wipes after wash Number of wipes can be set between 0-10 Recirculation for 30 seconds after wash Bi Xenon Only Washer activation time. Yes/No Washer activation 1 Washer activation 2 Reduces alcohol smell during windscreen washing Yes: Recirculation activated to reduce washer solution alcohol smell No: No Recirculation during windscreen wash Reduces or increases the amount of washer solution dependant on driving conditions Washer activation time for the first wash can be set between .1-2.0 seconds Washer activation time for the second wash can be set between .1-2.0 seconds Headlight Washer Blocking Time (Bi Xenon only) Headlight Washer Blocking Time Normal Default setting is 2 minutes. Driving conditions may dictate less or more time before a subsequent wash is actioned. Determines the time required before an additional headlight wash will be performed Adjustment between 0 seconds – infinity Tech 2 Body Heating & Ventilation Air Distribution Floor Mist Delay at Start Up Open Defrost in Hot Climate: Yes /No Delays the Air Distribution to the screen on start up to reduce fogging the inside of the screen Select yes to allow air to be directed to screen during AC cooling operation Select No if Screen is fogging up on the outside of the screen during AC operation and high humidity. Air Flow Fan Mist delay at Start Up 0-30sec. Recirculation Semi Auto Yes /No Recirculation Manual Yes / No Recirculation After Wash 30seconds Yes /No Delays fan operation for selected time to reduce screen fog up ACC will control recirculation, can be overridden by manual selection, however, will revert to Automatic on start up. Recirculation or Fresh will be Manually selected and maintained on next start Alcohol smell from washer fluid is reduced Rear Demist Rear Demist Activation Time 5min – 20minutes Tech 2 Body Theft Protection Drivers Door Doors & Trunk will unlock at key out ] Door Lock if not opened. Door Switches Unlock Function Yes/No Door will automatically lock if unlocked and not opened. These are the same adjustment items as unlock logic. Passenger Door Same as Drivers Doors Adjustment items Rear Left Door Same as Drivers Doors Adjustment items Rear Right Door Same as Drivers Doors Adjustment items Edit: the most current list can be provided by your dealer. END START Or Tech 2 Adjustments: (NOT User Programmable) ================================================== === * Panic Alarm ------------- Desc.: Disablees or Enables the Panic Alarm via remote control * Trunk Unlock -------------- Desc.: What happens when the trunk button on the remote is triggered Settings: Single Press Unlock+Open: Single press of the remote or door switch will unlock and open boot Single Press unlock / Double Press Open: Single press of the remote or door switch will unlock; double press will unlock and open boot. * Trunk Lock After Closing -------------------------- Desc.: What happens to the trunk lock when closing it. Settings: Yes: Automatically lock Boot on closing No: Boot can be reopened using micro switch button located on the trunk/boot * Trunk Lock After Drive Off ---------------------------- Desc.: Should the trunk be locked at drive off or after 30 sec.? Settings: Yes: Trunk/Boot will automatically lock when vehicle increases speed No: Trunk/Boot will remain closed, however will be in the unlocked condition if No was selected in the previous option. * Door & Trunk Unlock at Key Out -------------------------------- Desc.: When the is removed from the center console should door/trunk be unlocked? Settings: Yes: All Doors & Trunk/Boot will Unlock when the Key is removed from the Ignition Switch If Driver frequently locked all Doors when driving this feature would be beneficial. No: Doors and Boot will remain in the same condition as they were prior to Key removal * TSL Locking Logic (Theft Security Locking/Deadlock) ------------------- Settings: TSL at first Press: Default Setting. All Doors will lock in Deadlock Mode TSL at Second Press: All Doors will lock in Deadlock mode at the second press of the Remote. * Lock /Unlock Acknowledge -------------------------- Settings: None : No acknowledge will be visible Indicators: Indicators will blink as acknowledge * Follow Me Home Function ------------------------- Settings: Tail Light: When selected Tail Lights will be illuminated Back Up Light: When Selected Reverse Light will be activated Tech 2 Body Exterior Lighting & Horn ==================================== * High Beam Follow me home Active Time -------------------------------------- Desc.: Follow Me Home Active Time can be adjusted between 0- 10 minutes Settings: This Feature can be turned on or Off .Yes / No can be selected. Low Beam Automatic / Low Beam also in Position 0 (light switch) Yes / No Follow Me Home Active Time - Daytime Driving Lights can be activated * Parking Lights ---------------- Settings: Act as Lead Me To the Car Light. * Park Light On Reminder ------------------------ Settings: On / Off If Ignition is turned Off and the parking lights are active, Driver will be warned if set to on. * Show Trailer Light Outage Desc.: REC will detect blown trailer light and display on SID Settings: Yes or No * Trailer Light / Fog Light off ------------------------------- Settings: Yes: Fog Light Rear will be disabled When Trailer is connected Yes No * Horn Lock Unlock Acknowledge ------------------------------ Settings: On: Horn will honk when car is locked Off: Horn will not honk if car is locked Tech 2 Body Locking =================== * Panic Alarm Activation (Vehicles fitted with /Alarm only) ----------------------------------------------------------- - Panic Button / Locking Switch Central Locking Switch Driver /Passenger Settings: - Panic Button on Remote and locking switch inside vehicle will activate alarm - Panic Button will activate Alarm only - Locking Switch inside vehicle (driver /passenger will activate alarm only - No Panic Alarm function required. * Unlock Logic -------------- Settings: All at first press : All Doors will open & Fuel Lid will unlock if the Driver or Passenger Door Switch is activated Driver Door & Fuel Lid at first press : Only the drivers Door will unlock & Fuel Lid will unlock when door switch is activated * Remote unlocking One Press ---------------------------- Settings: All at first press: All Doors will open & Fuel Lid will unlock if the Remote is pressed Driver door & Fuel Lid at first press: Only the drivers Door will unlock & Fuel Lid will unlock when the Remote is pressed Tech 2 Body Front Wipers &Washers ================================= * Additional Wipes ------------------ Desc.: Below this Vehicle Speed Adjustment / Used after washing the windscreen. System will activate an additional wipe to remove excess water run off. Therefore Driver can wash screen without turning wiper on to wipe runoff. The Vehicle Speed at which the additional wipe feature cancels can be set. Number of Wipes after wash Number of Wipes after wash is programmable. The number of wipes can be set between 0-10. Settings: Wiper/Extra Wipe Enable: Yes: Extra Wipe enabled No: Extra Wipe not enabled Front Washer: Number of Wipes after wash Number of wipes can be set between 0-10 Recirculation for 30 seconds after wash * Bi Xenon Only Washer activation time -------------------------------------- Settings: Yes / No * Washer activation 1 --------------------- Reduces or increases the amount of washer solution dependant on driving conditions Washer activation time for the first wash can be set between .1-2.0 seconds * Washer activation 2 --------------------- Desc.: Reduces alcohol smell during windscreen washing. Settings: Yes: Recirculation activated to reduce washer solution alcohol smell (AC/ACC recirculation) No: No Recirculation during windscreen wash Washer activation time for the second wash can be set between .1-2.0 seconds * Headlight Washer Blocking Time (Bi Xenon only) -------------------------------- Desc.: Headlight Washer Blocking Time; Determines the time required before an additional headlight wash will be performed Settings: Default setting is 2 minutes. Driving conditions may dictate less or more time before a subsequent wash is actioned. Adjustment between 0 seconds-infinity. Tech 2 Body Heating & Ventilation ================================= * Air Distribution Floor Mist Delay at Start Up ----------------------------------------------- - Open Defrost in Hot Climate: Yes /No Delays the Air Distribution to the screen on start up to reduce fogging the inside of the screen. Select yes to allow air to be directed to screen during AC cooling operation. Select No if Screen is fogging up on the outside of the screen during AC operation and high humidity. Air Flow Fan Mist delay at Start Up 0-30sec. - Recirculation Semi Auto Yes /No Recirculation Manual Yes / No Recirculation After Wash 30seconds Yes /No Delays fan operation for selected time to reduce screen fog up ACC will control recirculation, can be overridden by manual selection, however, will revert to Automatic on start up. Recirculation or Fresh will be Manually selected and maintained on next start. Alcohol smell from washer fluid is reduced. - Rear Demist Rear Demist Activation Time 5min - 20minutes Tech 2 Body Theft Protection ============================ - Drivers Door Doors & Trunk will unlock at key out - Door Lock if not opened. - Door Switches Unlock Function Yes/No Door will automatically lock if unlocked and not opened. These are the same adjustment items as unlock logic. Passenger Door Same as Drivers Doors Adjustment items Rear Left Door Same as Drivers Doors Adjustment items Rear Right Door Same as Drivers Doors Adjustment items LIST # 2 Same as above; shows better list, Tech 2 Adjustments Menu Item: Locking and Alarm System Number of "chirps" (0-7) during alarm enable / disable Volume of "chirps" (L,M,H) during alarm enable / disable Number of light flashes (0-7) during alarm enable / disable Doors unlocked by first press of "unlock" button (driver's door or all doors) Doors lock automatically when car exceeds 7.5 mph (on/off) Driver's door unlocks automatically when key removed (on/off) Trunk locks automatically when car exceeds set speed (1-8 mph) (on/off) Allow trunk to be unlocked when car is moving (on/off) Automatic locking of trunk if it isn't opened within a specified time (1 sec - 4 min) (on/off) Automatic locking of trunk when closed (on/off) Automatic locking of car if left unlocked for a specified time (on/off) Lighting Systems Daytime Running Lights: Controlled by presence/absence of fuse 35 (not a Tech II option). This dictates the behavior of the lighting system when (a) the car is on, and (b) the light switch is in the leftmost (off) position. With fuse 35 present, the lighting is the same as with the switch in the middle position (see below for details). With fuse 35 absent, no lights are turned on. Headlights: There are several options, but only two are described on the bulletin boards: option 1 ("Euro") and option 3 ("US"). They differ only in the behavior of the lights when the light switch is in the middle position, as follows: Option 1 ("Euro"): Parking lights and city lights. (City lights are the tiny 7 watt bulbs next to the main lights.) Option 3 ("US"): Parking lights and (if the car is on) low beam headlights at reduced brightness. (Xenon headlights cannot reduce brightness, so full low beams are used in cars with Xenon headlights.) Some other notes on lighting behavior: On cars with Xenon headlights, the halogen lamp inboard of the Xenons is used only when the driver pulls the turn signal lever to flash the headlights while the headlights are otherwise off and Daytime Running Lights are disabled. There is no way to get full headlights to stay on when the car is off (except for the brief "Follow Me Home" feature, see below). Parking lights stay on with the car off if the light switch is in the middle position. Fog lights: Option 1 ("Euro"): fog lights can be on when light switch in middle or right position, including when high beams on Option 3 ("US"): fog lights can be on only with light switch in right position, and only when low beams selected "Follow Me Home" feature: When turn signal lever is pulled after car is turned off, main headlights will come on for a short time. The time is configurable through Tech II (20-50 sec; default 30). Front marker lights on when car in reverse (on/off) Indicators and Warnings Disable "Shift Up" indicator (on/off) Disable "Check Brake Light" warning on startup (on/off) Disable seat belt alarm on startup (on/off) Disable alarm when door open with key inserted (on/off) Range of temperatures for temperature gauge. There are actually five Tech II settings that control the behavior of the temperature gauge. Normally anything between 83°C and 115°C is shown as horizontal on the gauge. The most common change to this option is to set both "horizontal low temp" and "horizontal high temp" to the same value (typically 90°C), thus eliminating the "dead zone" around horizontal and causing the gauge to more accurately reflect the true temperature. Range of pressures for the turbo boost gauge. (Sorry, no detail available on how this works, but it's probably similar to the temperature gauge above.) Fuel level at which "low fuel" light comes on (can be set up to ¼ tank). Fuel level defined as "empty" (defaults to 2 gallons). This is used by both the fuel gauge and the trip computer. Calibration of outside temperature display. Adjust speedometer for different size tires. (Yes, this needs to be changed if you change your tire size.) Night mode: Level at which to re-illuminate gas gauge. (Typically same as low fuel light threshold.) Speed at which to re-illuminate upper end of speedometer (typically 85 mph). Temperature at which to re-illuminate temperature gauge (typically the beginning of the high temperature range). Climate Control Zones: can be forced to single zone, forced to dual zone (the default), or set to choose between single and dual zones based on whether someone's sitting in the front passenger seat. Remember last climate control setting on startup (on/off) Heated seats cycle duration (default 14 minutes) The following climate control configuration choices are not dealer Tech II settings; they are driver-controllable (see details in owner's manual): Pre-programmed settings to be used when car is started after being off for 10 minutes or more. Minimum outside temperature for use of A/C compressor (default 41°F, can be set to 55°F). Automatic use of recirculation at low speeds (on/off). Automatic use of rear window defroster in cold temperatures (on/off). Metric or imperial units. Audio System These are not dealer Tech II settings; they are driver-controllable (see details in owner's manual): Maximum starting volume Maximum volume when telephone/OnStar in use Speed-dependent volume (on/off) Loudness feature (on/off) Miscellaneous Extra wiper sweep after wash (on/off) (not possible with rain-sensing wipers) Sources __________________

[rpiereck]

Since yours does not have this feature, It's safe to assume that mine wouldn't. I was comparing to my wife's Audi A3, which does have these
warnings.

That's because Saab are made for people who actually think. We don't need no stinky audible warnings.

Don't worry, if the door is left open when you drive, you sure will hear the wind rushing by!!!

[photousa]

That's because Saab are made for people who actually think. We don't need no stinky audible warnings.

Don't worry, if the door is left open when you drive, you sure will hear the wind rushing by!!!

Ha, Ha..funny and true. I just want to make sure I'm getting all of the bells and whistles out of my SID..

[Oldsaabguy]

Should be able to run a sound check with the Tech2.Progamed it to the car right,I'm sure it is, so it should make all the noises. Some were taken out on later years. There is a crap load of setting changes you can make.lol.

[photousa]

Should be able to run a sound check with the Tech2.Progamed it to the car right,I'm sure it is, so it should make all the noises. Some were taken out on later years. There is a crap load of setting changes you can make.lol.

So are you saying that even though the car does not produce an audible warning tone when driving and the seatbelt is unbuckled, that it's possible, using Tech II, to program that feature to work?

[rpiereck]

So are you saying that even though the car does not produce an audible warning tone when driving and the seatbelt is unbuckled, that it's possible, using Tech II, to program that feature to work?

It's right there on the list of Tech 2 programmable features:

Disable seat belt alarm on startup (on/off)
Disable alarm when door open with key inserted (on/off)

I wish you didn't need Tech 2 to program all this stuff...