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  1. #11
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    Best prices here are considerably dearer then in US or Canada

    Diesel - £1.37 per litre
    Regular - £1.28 per litre

    - only a small village so better prices are at the supermarkets where they will also have 'premium' grade petrol. varies more by locale rather than BP vs Shell but many supermarkets run promotions such as 6p rebate per litre with a £40 minimum spend in store (1 bottle of gin + 1 of whisky = done!)

    Almost worth moving for the fuel prices you have!

    TTFN

  2. #12
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    This is an overview of manufacturing cost vs government taxes of fuel in the Netherlands. Even though diesel is more expensive to produce, it is cheaper at the pump because of lower government charges.

    Petrol Diesel LPG
    Manufacturing cost 29,6% 41,6% 47,8%
    Distribution 6,6% 7,4% 20,0%
    Subtotal gas station cost 36,3% 49,1% 67,8%
    Government charges 42,7% 29,9% 11,2%
    Sales tax 21,0% 21,0% 21,0%
    Subtotal government charges 63,7% 50,9% 32,2%
    Consumer price 100,0% 100,0% 100,0%

  3. #13
    Saab Fan Paamf's Avatar
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    A huge amount of the gas procedure is due to taxes but edifice and refine huge amounts of oil, coal, and natural gas. The prices are under huge pressure lately due to China and India with their economies. Unfortunately the environment is really suffering also as both countries refuse to learn from our mistakes. As the old saying goes....we know the price of everything and the cost of nothing.

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    Gas cost....sorry

  5. #15
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    2004 9-5 ARC 2.3T wagon
    These charts, 5 of them, contain the information shown on the MSDS' published by the respective companies. You will see a lot of common components in the blends and will see what the 'carrier solvent(s) is (usually at the top of the list) and what the 'active ingredient' is (usually at the bottom of the list and in small quantities).
    1- The most common 'active ingredient' in the OCTANE BOOSTERS is MMT (which stands for "Methyl cyclopentadienyl manganese tricarbonyl").
    2- I didn't spend a lot of time on the DIESEL ADDITIVES list since I don't have a diesel.
    3- An interesting find in the ENGINE FLUSH list was that Liqui Moly's "Pro-Line Engine Flush" contains ZDDP, which is an anti-wear additive found in motor oils and gear lubes.
    4- I had to separate the GAS LINE / CARB CLEANER products in two pages. Ther are lots of them out there and many I didn't research. An observation here is that there's not a whole lot of difference between these and the engine flush products. I'm not sayin' you could use one in place of the other-that's up to you.

    The tables are below, posted separately, as octane boosters, gas line carb cleaners1 & 2, engine flushes and diesel additives. I'll also post them in the /fuel-additives-256/ thread. The resolution may not be so good for some of these - let me know if they're unreadable and I'll post a bigger file.
    Last edited by Pbuck1; 06 August 2014 at 13:05.

  6. #16
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    DIESEL ADDITIVES
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    ENGINE FLUSHes
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  8. #18
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    GAS LINE and CARB / THROTTLE BODY CLEANERS 1
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    GAS LINE and CARB / THROTTLE BODY CLEANERS 2
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    OCTANE BOOSTERS
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