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    GM,

    Going to get a bottle of that and try it. This issue started occuring after running techron in just one tank.


    I do have a full 3in Krona turbo-back dp and exhaust installed (catless + foulers for the o2 sensors). Clamps are tight on the exhaust, dp looks good, if it is cracked, I cant tell. I can smell exhaust in the cabin at times with windows rolled down (very occasionally), idk if thats the wind or I have a leak in the bay somewhere. 2 days ago, I did a pull and smelled it right after, so maybe somethings messed up?

    Current Faults:
    P0101 - http://www.dtcsearch.com/P0101/
    P1132 - http://www.dtcsearch.com/P1132/
    Those o2s are Boschs, and my fan does work while running, but doesnt engage when car is off, like my 9-3 does

    Pending (Here's where the starting issue probably is):
    P1455 - http://www.dtcsearch.com/P1455/

    EDIT: My gas tank straps have fallen off, Im using tow straps to hold it up, maybe moisture is getting in?
    Also, my gas gauge doesnt work, I think a baffle broke in the tank, as the fuel pump is new (3 months or so).

    Thought Id update the thread, as always, I appreciate the help.

    Have a great day,

    Mario

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    I looked up your codes in the WIS and the troubleshooting section for all codes leads back to the same action.
    "Carefully check the connector to the fuel level sensor in the wiring harness. If no faults are found, replace the fuel level sensor."

    If you have a gas smell the Tech 2 EVAP has a diagnostic test program, but you can use your eyes and nose to check for leaks in Evaporative Emission system.

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    @Digger,

    Good morning, what about the o2 and the MAF? I can clean the MAF no problem, but the o2 one...is it just a bad o2?
    Or are you saying that all three faults are related? (which is kinda hard for me to believe)

    Thanks,

    Mario

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    seems your O2 code comes with your fuel level sensor or MAF/EVAP ( if the mix is not at the good level...too rich ) your O2 detect gases are too unburned for it. and for avoiding to catalystor to be destroyed by flaming the fuel vapors.
    my thought is around, like Digger said, the fuel lines.
    and the rough cold start is an indication to fuel starving when the fuel lines become empty. so fuel feed is the culprit ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazamario View Post
    @Digger,

    Good morning, what about the o2 and the MAF? I can clean the MAF no problem, but the o2 one...is it just a bad o2?
    Or are you saying that all three faults are related? (which is kinda hard for me to believe)

    Thanks,

    Mario
    In high tech computer terms, garbage in garbage out and in plumbing terms, S*** flows downhill. All three codes are emissions related and the farther upstream the cause the more the related codes downstream.

    No gas gage can also mean bad tank pressure sens, leads to no purge, leads to full evap can and the vapors that can't be sucked off to evap have to go somewhere. Does all this come from the same thing that causes rough cold start? Not a guarantee, but a good strong possibility.

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    Thank you gentleman, Ill poke around a bit and report back.

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    Drygas, Priming system doesn't work, i'll replace the check valve first in the sending fuel line. I also changed the FPR, to no avail. Will check Schrader valve soon.

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    First time you add fuel system cleaner to the tank of a 10 year old car in our part of the country, you should plan on replacing a fuel filter after the first couple of tank fills.

    You don't need expensive high tech equipment to find a bad check valve or dirty line, but you do need to be creative. If you've got an air compressor with a decent sized tank, your steel lines aren't rusty and your flexing rubber isn't rotting, try blowing them out before you change them out. Low pressure 5-10psi max for clearing and testing check valves, 90 psi for the long run lines after you open the lines. Use some flex line to control where you blow and shooting it into a clean container will tell you what kind of sludge came out of the line. Use common sense safety, well ventilated area, outside even better, no smoking within 50 feet, safety glasses, the simple stuff.

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    @Digger,

    Even if I just put one in within the last 6 months?

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    Kazamario, what happened? I thought you had that car fixed, and now after catching up with this thread, there are even more problems. What began as a simple issue has morphed into multiple OBD codes, fuel tank/pump issues, O2 sensors, and god only knows what else. Well, Digger is on the case, and Swisssaabist, too, so there is hope. But please don't break anything else. 😄. Don't make us all come out and fix this. Comping Swisssaabist on airfare is going to be pricey, LOL.

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