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    2010 New Generation Saab 9-5 Service Vehicle Soon

    Very fustrating as not very happy with SAAB. I had this problem before when the SVS "Service Vehicle Soon" warning comes up in the centre info display and the car goes in to limp mode. When you do a diagnostics it comes up with various fault codesP0396 and various other P03 codes. The codes will direct you towards a DPF sensor and cylinder pressure issues. What is causing the SVS light to come on and the vehicle to go in to limp mode is to do with the pressure sensors on the glow plugs and build up of soot on the sensors located at the bottom of the glow plugs.

    Vauxhall issued a Technical Service Bulletin in 2010 relating to Engine A20DTx - Engines effected are A20DTH/A20DTJ. A20 DTH is the Saab 9-5 and Vauxhall Insignia 2.0CDTI. Glow plug with prssure sensors related failure codes and suggest the vehicle be recalled and a reflash be done with the latest software available as per CW40/211 on TISWeb. The new software will not activate the SVS light any longer in terms of malfunction from the glow plugs. Guess what Saab did not mention or offer a solution and Vauxhall will not do the software download required. Thus you have to replace all 4 glow plugs at a cost of 100 each total 400 every 2 years plus the labour associated to fit these glow plugs.

    I have experienced this before and at a great cost to myself eventually (after being charged for and EGR Cooler, A DPF sensor and a regeneration of the DPF to no avail) tried to get a Saab dealer to do the upgrade but without an success. This particular dealer even invested in the latest software to read the codes on the NG Saab 9-5.Therefore had to replace the 4 glow plugs (part number 55590467) in April 2016. Three years later the same problem costing me now another 500. Certainly someone in Saab must know about this issue and can do someting about it in stead of us spending money for such a simple workaround.

    If anyone associated or know of anyone that can have a word with Saab then maybe all the New Generation Saab 9-5 owners that remain loyal to the brand can get some help. I have seen various posts relating to this problem on the forums and can imagine that I am not the only one that has gone or will be going through this.

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    I'm having problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asensi View Post
    I'm having problems.
    do the glow plugs first

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    Hi, I got ones this DPF problem with my 2.0TID. Same symptons. Car to service and forced burning. This happened about 3 years ago. After that I went to shop who took mechanically out the DPF, disabled EGR and made slight tune to sw. 160hp to 205hp and some more torgue. Now in car odo 185tkm and no glow plugs changed and no problems with DPF. The car passes MOT with diesel K value limit 1,5. (I know that the cars are designed and stated to K0,5 but MY2010 car in finland the value can be 1,5 in MOT). Mine car is originally been a show car in Sweden in a car dealership and pre series. Chassis number is 277.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wstadler View Post
    Very fustrating as not very happy with SAAB.
    If anyone associated or know of anyone that can have a word with Saab then maybe all the New Generation Saab 9-5 owners that remain loyal to the brand can get some help. I have seen various posts relating to this problem on the forums and can imagine that I am not the only one that has gone or will be going through this.
    As I am sure you know Saab ceased trading back in 2012 so talking to Saab isn't going to happen. I have a NG 9-5 but it isn't a Diesel and doesn't have a DPF I am therefore unable to offer any practical assistance beyond suggesting that you download WIS and EPC from the links elsewhere on this site. If there is information on the subject in WIS that would be my preferred source.

    Additionally, you could contact a Saab specialist who may be able to perform the software update for you, I have used Ian Allan Saab in Virginia Water, which I appreciate is some way from you, it may be worth a phone call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tturku View Post
    Hi, I got once this DPF problem with my 2.0TID. Same symptoms. Car to service and forced burning. This happened about 3 years ago. After that I went to shop who took mechanically out the DPF, disabled EGR and made slight tune to sw. 160hp to 205hp and some more torque. Now in car odo 185tkm and no glow plugs changed and no problems with DPF. The car passes MOT with diesel K value limit 1,5. (I know that the cars are designed and stated to K0,5 but MY2010 car in finland the value can be 1,5 in MOT). Mine car is originally been a show car in Sweden in a car dealership and pre series. Chassis number is 277.
    Unfortunately removing the DPF is an MOT fail in the UK irrespective or any other consideration.

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