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    03 95 arc v6 turns over no start

    I turned it on yesterday morning to warm up sat in it for about 10 min in park.
    About 8mims in my 10min sit it hesitated a very little bit.
    2 min later it turned off.
    Hasnt started since.
    I changed 1 dic 2 days ago ran perfect.
    After the no start issue happened i changed that 1 with another not the same i replace the first time.
    Still no start.
    I do have a small oil leak and i burn oil some where on the exhaust as it makes its way down so when i replaced the back dic of the v6 i noticed it had no oil drip and looked as if it never touched oil.
    I thought maybe im out of oil added some to no help.
    Someone told me the crank position sensor
    But definitely need some more opinions.
    Will try this morning to work on it alil will update as i go

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    The car is more than 16 years old and these things eventually happen to all old cars. So turn the key and watch the tach, if the needle doesn't even wiggle when cranking replace the CPS. Or you could change it today, even at full dealer retail price, the CPS cost less than a tow job from the freeway and the car is 16 going on 17, if the CPS isn't bad, it will be soon, these things don't last forever.

    When a CPS goes it is usually an instant dead and sometimes an intermittent instant dead, not usually a hesitation or rough run before it craps out. This is more likely fuel air or even accumulated water condensation from who knows how many years of running a tank near empty. Could be plugged fuel filter, bad fuel pump, could even be out of gas. Check for gas at the fuel rail, check for smell of gas in the vacuum line that connects to the fuel pressure regulator and if that is all good, unplug the MAS and see if the car will start and run smooth. If it does clean the MAS, plug it in and try again.

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    Thanks will check and do all tgis in about 30min i will update with what i got

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    Checked fuel pump its working
    Changed the fuel filter mine looked as if it was the original to the car lol
    Checked gas at the rail? Im guessing this is on the top of v6 engine on the left hand side just a little above the dic..
    I push on the little botton i get gas coming out
    I also unplugged MAS and aftet all this still nothing

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    You didn't mention if the tach wiggled when you cranked the engine. Does it?

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    No its does not wiggle

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    UPDATE
    i thought fuel pump was ok cuz i could feel it come on but apparently it turns on bit does not send gas to engine.
    A little bit of starting fluid made it start right up going tomorrow morning to the junk yard and will update when i install the other fuel pump

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    UPDATE!!!!!
    it was in fact the fuel pump.
    Seems to be running fine will post how its been driving tonight or tomorrow just to see amything else ocurrs

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    So it seems that i have to prime the car like 5 times before i get a clean start how long will this occur??

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    Once is usually enough, sometimes more, if you are still doing this a couple of days from now give your fuel pressure a good looking over, it might not be handling the pressure from the new pump.

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