Comments on: Saabosphere – links we (mostly) liked this week http://inside.saab.com/saabosphere-links-we-mostly-liked-this-week/ Lorum Ipsum tagline Tue, 27 Dec 2011 02:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Martin Perron http://inside.saab.com/saabosphere-links-we-mostly-liked-this-week/#comment-3650 Martin Perron Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:37:00 +0000 http://inside.saab.com/?p=2996#comment-3650 Saab still alive!!! Here in Canada > Montréal we 100% support Saab! Nous sommes des amoureux de Saab et nous souhaitons prompt rétablissement à Saab qui sera de retour avec des Saab 2012... Nous avons mis en ligne notre nouveau site Web dernièrement: http://www.saablaval.ca/ Nous avons des Saab neuves et usagées! Visit us, share us! ps; give us some news on www.facebook.com/saablaval ! Saab still alive!!! Here in Canada > Montréal we 100% support Saab! Nous sommes des amoureux de Saab et nous souhaitons prompt rétablissement à Saab qui sera de retour avec des Saab 2012… Nous avons mis en ligne notre nouveau site Web dernièrement: http://www.saablaval.ca/ Nous avons des Saab neuves et usagées! Visit us, share us!

ps; give us some news on http://www.facebook.com/saablaval !

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By: MarkC http://inside.saab.com/saabosphere-links-we-mostly-liked-this-week/#comment-3633 MarkC Thu, 15 Sep 2011 08:39:00 +0000 http://inside.saab.com/?p=2996#comment-3633 Looks like it would've been an easy fit in a C900 hatch.  Hopefully the new hatch will be good for such things? Looks like it would’ve been an easy fit in a C900 hatch.  Hopefully the new hatch will be good for such things?

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By: Daniel Lamko http://inside.saab.com/saabosphere-links-we-mostly-liked-this-week/#comment-3632 Daniel Lamko Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:36:00 +0000 http://inside.saab.com/?p=2996#comment-3632 Trying to have my fingers crossed but it makes me have bad feeling when i hear something bad about this... Thanks for a quick answer :) I need to stop reading newspapers really and stay positive instead... Trying to have my fingers crossed but it makes me have bad feeling when i hear something bad about this…

Thanks for a quick answer :) I need to stop reading newspapers really and stay positive instead…

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By: Anonymous http://inside.saab.com/saabosphere-links-we-mostly-liked-this-week/#comment-3631 Anonymous Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:28:00 +0000 http://inside.saab.com/?p=2996#comment-3631 Why is VM, Antonov or anyone else believing that Saab could be something prosperous automatically considered being crooks? This i sad. Why is VM, Antonov or anyone else believing that Saab could be something prosperous automatically considered being crooks? This i sad.

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By: 100%Saab http://inside.saab.com/saabosphere-links-we-mostly-liked-this-week/#comment-3630 100%Saab Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:21:00 +0000 http://inside.saab.com/?p=2996#comment-3630 Maybe everyone should check out this article at the New York Times today: "What if the Secret to Success Is Failure?" It's all about character and being able to pick yourself up when things don't go right.  I worry about warranty coverage, too. But that does not keep me from keeping an eye on the currently available new Saabs and prices. So, Swade (and Saab, too) just stay on the horse. (as in don't fall off the horse) Just a thought. Maybe everyone should check out this article at the New York Times today: “What if the Secret to Success Is Failure?” It’s all about character and being able to pick yourself up when things don’t go right. 

I worry about warranty coverage, too. But that does not keep me from keeping an eye on the currently available new Saabs and prices. So, Swade (and Saab, too) just stay on the horse. (as in don’t fall off the horse)

Just a thought.

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By: Anonymous http://inside.saab.com/saabosphere-links-we-mostly-liked-this-week/#comment-3629 Anonymous Wed, 14 Sep 2011 23:55:00 +0000 http://inside.saab.com/?p=2996#comment-3629 Carlstrom is a very emotional guy who has done Saab some "bear services" as we say here, with his a bit to heavy conspiracy theoretic ideas. Disservice i guess in english. He is also obviously not the kind of guy that reads a lot and he makes one or two very illogical jumps in this article. With that said i think his Aftonbladet article is generally brilliantly spot on and it brings a tear to my eye. Carlstrom is a very emotional guy who has done Saab some “bear services” as we say here, with his a bit to heavy conspiracy theoretic ideas. Disservice i guess in english. He is also obviously not the kind of guy that reads a lot and he makes one or two very illogical jumps in this article. With that said i think his Aftonbladet article is generally brilliantly spot on and it brings a tear to my eye.

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By: Anonymous http://inside.saab.com/saabosphere-links-we-mostly-liked-this-week/#comment-3627 Anonymous Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:38:00 +0000 http://inside.saab.com/?p=2996#comment-3627 You're absolutely right, Swade! Also the number of articles here in the Dutch press writing that Saab has "almost died" is countless... But, that has been the case now for nearly six months, and still SAAB IS NOT DEAD YET! Please keep up the great work updating us from the inside in so well written words, while at the same time bringing us enough good stuff that put a smile on our face.  The future is to boutique brands, and for such an emotional product as a car is, the future should be promising! Laurens PS On a side note: I will fly in to Sweden for a few days to visit Trolhattan and the Saab Museum from there, but I only want to go with a Saab rental car. Anyone know if I can rent a Saab around Stockholm airport??? A quick google scan did not gave me any concrete results... You’re absolutely right, Swade! Also the number of articles here in the Dutch press writing that Saab has “almost died” is countless… But, that has been the case now for nearly six months, and still SAAB IS NOT DEAD YET!

Please keep up the great work updating us from the inside in so well written words, while at the same time bringing us enough good stuff that put a smile on our face. 

The future is to boutique brands, and for such an emotional product as a car is, the future should be promising!

Laurens

PS On a side note: I will fly in to Sweden for a few days to visit Trolhattan and the Saab Museum from there, but I only want to go with a Saab rental car. Anyone know if I can rent a Saab around Stockholm airport??? A quick google scan did not gave me any concrete results…

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By: Steven Wade http://inside.saab.com/saabosphere-links-we-mostly-liked-this-week/#comment-3626 Steven Wade Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:12:00 +0000 http://inside.saab.com/?p=2996#comment-3626 Well, let me think it through for you. This bankruptcy case would be heard after the unions' case seeing it was lodged after the union case.  So it's not going to be something really new. As with the unions' case, if we have our appeal upheld in Gothenburg, which we realistically expect to happen, then the unions' case would be withdrawn (so they've said) and my understanding is that we'd be protected from this claim by our reorg status. The other element is that we would likely have the 70mil Euro deal transaction completed and be in a much better place to negotiate with suppliers, such as this claimant. So, this is news of a sort, but under the legal processes applicable (as far as I understand them) it doesn't really change the current situation in any way.  The possible exception to that is if a creditor claim like this one is treated different from a union claim.  That's something I don't know for sure, but I assume they'd be treated the same. Well, let me think it through for you.

This bankruptcy case would be heard after the unions’ case seeing it was lodged after the union case.  So it’s not going to be something really new.

As with the unions’ case, if we have our appeal upheld in Gothenburg, which we realistically expect to happen, then the unions’ case would be withdrawn (so they’ve said) and my understanding is that we’d be protected from this claim by our reorg status.

The other element is that we would likely have the 70mil Euro deal transaction completed and be in a much better place to negotiate with suppliers, such as this claimant.

So, this is news of a sort, but under the legal processes applicable (as far as I understand them) it doesn’t really change the current situation in any way.  The possible exception to that is if a creditor claim like this one is treated different from a union claim.  That’s something I don’t know for sure, but I assume they’d be treated the same.

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By: Steve C. http://inside.saab.com/saabosphere-links-we-mostly-liked-this-week/#comment-3625 Steve C. Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:01:00 +0000 http://inside.saab.com/?p=2996#comment-3625 At least the Automotive News story was heartwarming with the writer's remembrance of his Saab 9000 experience.   All the referenced "obits" were opinion pieces that used bits and pieces of news that were current at the time they were written.   The writers are going with anecdotal and other limited knowledge about the longer-term history of Saab.   Even legitimate issues they mentioned are written as if they are the norm vs. the exception.  Reading all these "missed points" will make Saab's latest anticipated comeback even more rewarding.  And, I'm glad this topic of "obits" was reported here since it gives me an outlet for talking about what I've been telling people.  We could always talk about a "Saab (as in "sob") Story." And the new holding company symbol (SWAN) now introduces the play on "Swan Song."  But I've determined we shouldn't use the "it's over when the fat lady sings" expression.   It will only be over when the tall guy says so.   And hopefully the thing that will be over are these obituaries.  At least the Automotive News story was heartwarming with the writer’s remembrance of his Saab 9000 experience.  

All the referenced “obits” were opinion pieces that used bits and pieces of news that were current at the time they were written.   The writers are going with anecdotal and other limited knowledge about the longer-term history of Saab.   Even legitimate issues they mentioned are written as if they are the norm vs. the exception.  Reading all these “missed points” will make Saab’s latest anticipated comeback even more rewarding. 

And, I’m glad this topic of “obits” was reported here since it gives me an outlet for talking about what I’ve been telling people.  We could always talk about a “Saab (as in “sob”) Story.” And the new holding company symbol (SWAN) now introduces the play on ”Swan Song.”  But I’ve determined we shouldn’t use the “it’s over when the fat lady sings” expression.   It will only be over when the tall guy says so.   And hopefully the thing that will be over are these obituaries. 

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By: Anonymous http://inside.saab.com/saabosphere-links-we-mostly-liked-this-week/#comment-3624 Anonymous Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:49:00 +0000 http://inside.saab.com/?p=2996#comment-3624 To be honest I think the plan is to ignore USA for a couple of years and aim for an economy that is in better shape the bric countries. USA is going down slowly. To be honest I think the plan is to ignore USA for a couple of years and aim for an economy that is in better shape the bric countries. USA is going down slowly.

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